michael8330

QUOTE: 以下是引用 fredfred123  在2006-9-14 10:13:00的发言

1. they asked me to sign an additional agreement between Seller's agent and me, not sure if include seller. ( I haven't decided )
2. they said this is a secret agreement, cannot let HDB know it.


1. best include seller
2. hdb will not want to look into this agreement, (commission agreement)

michael8330

以下是引用 铜牌推广者 在2006-9-14 1:32:00的发言：
But Micheal, I think this is usually not advisable, right?
Because

1) If you are doing this, would 4 parties (buyer, seller, buyer's agent, seller's agent) have any agreement in black and white state clearly this condition of sales?
2) Is this black and white agreement need to be presented to HDB in 1st appointment as an attachment?

how about move in early and move out late?
that is way to do this type of arrangement , go and ask yr senior of yr company , i think is not right to open up the trade secret here.

all the thing i do , is above board and legal in all way , i don't do illegal thing , i am alway ready to be ask.

michael8330

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>铜牌推广者</i>在2006-9-14 1:44:00的发言：</b><br/><p>我知道您是谁啦，按理说，1）那人以欺骗威胁高压的手法让您们先签OTP, 这就不是算是服务了。2）那人连1st appointment 都没有来，根本没有服务到完，为什么要给1%？ 但是打官司会搞得你身心俱疲。我的建议是：先找mary 姐，看能不能摆平。也请大家出点好的建议。</p>[em03][em03]</div><p>欺骗威胁高压的手法= this can cause crime offence, so don't any how claim, it may be sue under deframe. </p><p>mary 姐= are u refer to the boss of the company ? madam Lu? </p><p>maximum 5k u want to 打官司? </p><p>u know how much is the legal fee? </p><p>tell the whole story , i help u to think .&nbsp; [em05]</p>

michael8330

以下是引用 人人喊打 在2006-9-13 23:53:00的发言：

请问楼主，我的中介在骗我签了OTP后，就露出恶劣本质了，说不再继续了，跑了，再也没有做任何事情。最后我们找了个律师才发现这是离婚加破产的房子，害的我们进退两难，万不得已只好认购。得知我们向HDB excise OTP后，这个中介居然还好意思向我们要1％佣金，我们拒绝后，还发了一封律师信给我们，说我们欠他佣金（我们没有和他签那个commission agreement），要诉我们上法庭。和他的公司沟通，效果也不明显，准备向消协、IRAS或报纸投诉，不知道哪种方式更有效。请问楼主和路过的朋友，则么投诉这样的不良房屋中介，别让这样的人为房屋中介这个职业蒙羞。顺便提一下，这个中介是中国人，请各位同胞留意。

i do not know what have happen in between , but upon purchase and ex. the otp,  the agent is entitle for minimum1%, i do not know what services u are refer to , (bank loan ? paper work? or ???) cause the agent is the effective cause of the whole deal ( meaning that if the agent did not bring u and the seller together , u will not be able to buy the flat and the seller will not be able to sell the flat to u) (离婚加破产的房子 still can do resell , nothing wrong with this type of hse.)

maybe u want to tell more about of story , can let us know more in depth.

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人人喊打

<p>多谢铜牌和<strong><em>michael8330！赞一下两位！</em></strong></p>[em17]

qiubiqq1

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>人人喊打</i>在2006-9-14 12:32:00的发言：</b><br/>OTP上有我agent的签名,没有他同事的签名.</div><p></p>哦！凶多吉少！楼主有什么高见？

人人喊打

OTP上有我agent的签名,没有他同事的签名.

qiubiqq1

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>人人喊打</i>在2006-9-14 12:14:00的发言：</b><br/>他自己说不follow up我们这个case,然后就跑了,我们什么联系方式都没有,也没有签commission agreement,凭什么拿佣金啊!first appointment 他的Group Leader有去,交了一个表格给HDB officer,我们给officer写了书面证明,说这人不是我的agent.</div><p></p><p>你是说他的同事有参与first appointment?如果有参与，就比较麻烦了。</p><p>那OTP 上有没有他的签名啊？</p>

michael8330

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>人人喊打</i>在2006-9-14 12:07:00的发言：</b><br/><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713">楼主,则么联系你!发短信给我!</font></strong></p></div><p></p><p>i think is best to communicate through here, as this matter is a good case study ,</p><p>so more ppls is aware what is going on.</p>

qiubiqq1

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>michael8330</i>在2006-9-14 12:01:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p>your thinking is very simple.</div><p></p><p>我这么说是因为以前我的好朋友跟房屋经纪打过官司，那个房屋经纪的服务态度极其恶劣，而且处理事情漏洞百出，我的朋友就打算少还中介费，结果他就是抓住OTP上他的签名和委托他的同事参加了first appointment这两点赢了官司，我朋友本来3千多的中介费，结果连庭费律师费什么的还了2万多，要不然就要破产。总算知道为什么房屋中介有的时候那么嚣张了。现在这个经纪没有参加first appointment,当然不还他中介费。</p>

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